Discussions about Hiring and Hiring Practices

[pythonis]

Originally Posted by MaKettle1

hmm, my complaint is the opposite, people who agree to work.. pick and choose and leave. I have a large farm and use the multiple hire tool.. when possible.. and am content to let good workers work the whole farm.. but mostly people only want to plow.. never mind fishing or picking fruit.. flowers forget it.. As a result I don't use the market anymore except to buy and sell goods.

And that, IMO, is what has ruined the marketplace. People picking and choosing what they want. Personally i think that the person shouldnt be allowed to leave until the job they agreed to do is done. They leave it sends them right back. They get booted it sends them right back. Im more partial to players who come to the market to get goods for their facs via working for others. I cant stand it when i hire someone to harvest fields of crops just so they can turn around and sell the stuff for a cpl coins to buy decorations when someone else is in the market looking all over for crops that I had the whole time.

[God's Saving Grace Of 3]

I still think we need two markets for hire one for tools and one for no tools. I do not mind working with others either way, but I just feel so bad when I start running over the non tooled workers. I also never hire the non tooled workers for the same reason, our farms have gotten so big and complicated that I feel bad for them trying to work there way through and they never are able to complete the farms before they get booted.

[God's Saving Grace Of 3]

I would love to have a way for my neighbors to be able to work my farms when they come into visit, if I am not there to hire them. We help each other out in real life so why not here as well? I have gone to many of my neighbors to work factories and so forth and noticed their crops need harvested, and would have loved to of been able to help them.

[beckycoats]

I think being courteous, like we should strive to be in real life, pays all around on FT. As many have mentioned above, remembering what it was like in the beginning without tools, and leaving a reasonable amount for them if you are one of several workers, is polite and kind, allows them to move up in the game, and you may meet good workers for future jobs simply by being polite and considerate. I often tell the toolless worker I am leaving the rest for them, or if they are working my farm, I will ask if they have time to do a big job or want help, to share chopping or flowers and so forth. I just pop back in to the market and hire for specific jobs or just one of my farms at a time. If I happen onto someone with all tools, who will do all jobs (like me...I'll do anything, as it all pays off in the end....) then I just solo hire for the whole shebang. Just communicating is helpful. If a worker doesn't respond, I send a message, wait, maybe try again...if I get no response, I leave for a bit then check in and see how far they have gotten, how slow or fast they are, and if they are purposely leaving certain jobs out. If they won't answer, I then hire maybe one more worker if they are too slow....Depends on how much time I have.... Again, I appreciate communication, but many workers are not fluent in English or aren't good typists, or simply go right to full screen and can't see/ respond to messages...or are just rude! Lol.... Whatever the reason, if someone isn't responding, I give them the benefit of the doubt, but hire more workers to get the job done.

I like this thread. It helps to see how others feel/ see the game. Some folks are pretty selfish, others are polite....but, in the end, it is just a game and we can be selective or not depending on how others behave.

Ta.

[pythonis]

Originally Posted by beckycoats

I think being courteous, like we should strive to be in real life, pays all around on FT. As many have mentioned above, remembering what it was like in the beginning without tools, and leaving a reasonable amount for them if you are one of several workers, is polite and kind, allows them to move up in the game, and you may meet good workers for future jobs simply by being polite and considerate. I often tell the toolless worker I am leaving the rest for them, or if they are working my farm, I will ask if they have time to do a big job or want help, to share chopping or flowers and so forth. I just pop back in to the market and hire for specific jobs or just one of my farms at a time. If I happen onto someone with all tools, who will do all jobs (like me...I'll do anything, as it all pays off in the end....) then I just solo hire for the whole shebang. Just communicating is helpful. If a worker doesn't respond, I send a message, wait, maybe try again...if I get no response, I leave for a bit then check in and see how far they have gotten, how slow or fast they are, and if they are purposely leaving certain jobs out. If they won't answer, I then hire maybe one more worker if they are too slow....Depends on how much time I have.... Again, I appreciate communication, but many workers are not fluent in English or aren't good typists, or simply go right to full screen and can't see/ respond to messages...or are just rude! Lol.... Whatever the reason, if someone isn't responding, I give them the benefit of the doubt, but hire more workers to get the job done.

I like this thread. It helps to see how others feel/ see the game. Some folks are pretty selfish, others are polite....but, in the end, it is just a game and we can be selective or not depending on how others behave.

Ta.

It has nothing to do with not remembering what it was like. When I hire people I want the job done quickly and efficiently because I can do the job myself a lot faster than anyone else. I would like nothing more than to hire everyone in the market but it seems everyone wants solo work which means we have to sit there and wait anywhere from 10 minutes to over an hour for the worker to get done with one farm. Im patient but Im not THAT patient. And many can agree with me to the fact that for the most part every time we hire a tool-less person they either leave or get booted in the middle of the job. I can give ppl the benefit of the doubt on occasion but every single time every single day? I dont think so. I hate hiring ppl at max level because imo they dont need the work. They should already have a huge warehouse full of goods to run their facilities and should basically be self contained. I root for the underdog so to speak so when I go to hire in the market I look for non maxed level players but id like for them to have tools. Why? Because it shows that youre willing to help as well. Granted if youre level 20 or so i dont expect you to have them, but if youre level 285 theres no reason for not having some. You come to the market to help work on peoples farms so IMO you should put the farmers needs first. If youre level 173 or whatever that means youve gotten that many FC plus 5 so what did you spend them on? A cute little puppy dog that cost you 15 FC? A house with a snowman on the porch that cost you 33? The perfume factory? I just cant see why anyone would not want the tools especially people that constantly go to the market to work for others. Thats why I have 99% stopped going to the market. Every time I go there its nothing but a mix of players who either dont have tools and want to take their dear sweet time or they have tools but they have excessive millions xp over the max. I have no problem hiring more workers but the lot of those who do work in the market will leave as soon as the 2nd person shows up or the person we just hired will turn around and leave because theres someone already there. When did people get so greedy? So people go over you with their tools...so what? You can always get hired again for something else in the market. If you dont want tools fine but hey at least be willing to team up with others to help out.

[ropulse]

I would like the option to hire workers to do everything. I frequently hire with all boxes checked and for all 15 farms. Each farms has a mix of Plants, Flowers, Trees, Chopping and Fish to be done, depending on the how long the worker works, more products mature.

I also feel that individual workers that want to work SOLO must be also willing to do everything that the farmer has hired for them to do. SOLO has another problem, in that the farmer does not have control on how fast individuals respond to a hire request, I have had workers respond to hire request in the order of 10 minutes. SOLO workers can be brutal with their messages if another worker shows up, something completely out of the control of the hiring farmer.

I feel that there should be reputation ratings for workers. It would be percentage of the jobs done when hired, and a fast, medium, or slow rating for the speed that they work.

I would like to use the buddy list as a list of qualified workers and hire directly from that list. This might be a way to handle the vacation issue, by issuing an unlimited hire request to buddies; this would pop up when they log on for a period of time.

[pythonis]

I believe its FT etiquette to not accept jobs that you have waiting for you after being AFK.

And I do not accept jobs from people who have all boxes checked because most of the time its people who are just lazy and dont want to go and check the appropriate boxes. if you dont have plowing then dont check the box. If you dont have flowers then dont check the box. Etc etc etc.

A rating system would be nice but with OCD-"All or nothing" type people like myself i dont think youd like it because we'd give the lot of people low scores.

The buddy system thing could work provided those people could be counted on to play the game continuously. If someone had hired me to do stuff for them their crops just might be dead right now because i just havent had any motivation to play FT since the last update.

As for people being rude with their solo only remarks, when that happens i go and do the work myself right over top of them. If the people complain i simply say "you either both share or you both get nothing". I dont condone (which in my world means 'i wont put up with') selfishness.

[Vivienne57]

I don't go to the market at all now because of all the issues with hiring workers...ie. those stated above and more. I do work for other neighbours when they message me and vice versa if my neighbours are on and not too busy. I miss the interaction in the market too. Earlier on in the game whilst you were waiting for work in the market people actually talked to one another, now players either just don't reply or are begging for work. I love the game and how it's progressed but agree it does make it harder for those just starting out without all the tools.

[Tony D]

Originally Posted by dorissau

I'm not sure this is a suggestion.. more like a complaint!! Just went to help with friends' fac work requests and the first three I answered were so heavily stacked and layered that even when I hid EVERYTHING, my flash crashed. I guess I don't understand the mind set that requires such piling up of the fields when we have 16 farms and I have more crop land than I can possibly need. There must be some way to put a limit on these intense layers/stacks because they slow down everything!! Meanwhile, I've made note of those farmers and will ignore their requests for help.

Hi, I moved your post to general feedback.

[Berle]

In the last couple of weeks, I have something happening that was frequent in the past but have not seen in months. When I hire someone to work, others have been coming along with them. They retreat to the upper right corner plot and just stand there. I can get rid of them by clicking on them and ignoring. What's happening?