New Release -- June 7th, 2010

[SueW170]

Thinking that free FT Cash and every facility, crop, decoration, etc. should be given to us by SlashKey is "entitlement thinking." I agree with you on that point.
However asking for an explanation isn't. It's been pointed out that this is a BETA program. As such, we, the players, are in effect testers. So asking a question and requesting clarification isn't asking to be "given" something for free. Who knows? There are doubtless at least a few highly qualified computer programmers among the FT game participants and with more information, it's even possible that one or more of them could be of practical assistance to the developers.
Using terms such as "justice" and "transparency" may go over the line, this being just a game and one that we choose to play or not play. But requesting information? That in itself doesn't seem out of line.

Originally Posted by Toranut97

ENTITLEMENT. No need to look it up in the dictionary. The definition is HERE on this forum.

The devs OWE US NOTHING.

They do not owe us Farm Cash. They do not owe us explanations. They owe us zip, nil, zilch nada, besides making the game as nice as it can be for free, and I personally believe they have done that quite well.

They have provided a game that can be played perfectly well with limitations for free. But which can still be played *quite* satisfactorily for free.

For those who are able and can financially support this enterprise, there are options that can be enjoyed. But they are hardly necessities. Need I remind everyone this is a game????

I wish the exaggerated demands for justice and transparency on this forum could be applied with equal vehemence to social justice causes!!!! LOL! The world would be turned upside down!

Thanks devs. I have been at this game for a lonnngggg time.... and really appreciate how far it has come.

[Toranut97]

Originally Posted by SueW170

Thinking that free FT Cash and every facility, crop, decoration, etc. should be given to us by SlashKey is "entitlement thinking." I agree with you on that point.
However asking for an explanation isn't. It's been pointed out that this is a BETA program. As such, we, the players, are in effect testers. So asking a question and requesting clarification isn't asking to be "given" something for free. Who knows? There are doubtless at least a few highly qualified computer programmers among the FT game participants and with more information, it's even possible that one or more of them could be of practical assistance to the developers.
Using terms such as "justice" and "transparency" may go over the line, this being just a game and one that we choose to play or not play. But requesting information? That in itself doesn't seem out of line.

You want information? -- then try corresponding privately with the developers. The OP wanted to offer his/her assistance with the "problem" -- sounds like something with no place in this thread. You want a job? Contact Slashkey and apply. Add to that the petulant, whiny and demanding tone that was taken (basically "I want an answer and I want it NOW!" Then, a day later, "Hey! Where is my answer??? You OWE ME an answer!") and I believe you are seeing a reflection of an entitlement attitude.

It may be Beta but the devs owe us no insights into their game development process nor the behind-the-scenes programming details of this game. Such information may be desirable to those who like to steal ideas. Or that might just be my paranoia. Either way, they owe us no explanations in my book.

And I am sure the devs love hearing how what they are trying to accomplish is "simple" and "no big deal" if they would just let John or Judy Farmtowner pitch in and help. Yeah. Right. It's real simple. Multiple servers, millions of players, cross platform, multiple social network hosts -- no big deal. I am sure if the players an just pitch in and write some code they will solve it all!!!

"Justice" and "transparency" were deliberately employed since so many of the whiniest posters use such phrases as "It is NOT FAIR that we don't get free Farm Cash" or "Why am I being punished?". Transparency because of stuff like this: "Shouldn't the devs let us know what is going on? Why don't they tell us why the animals can't be moved? What are they planning?" etc., etc.

Sorry, i wan't the one who upped the drama ante. The whiners did.

I would like to add thanks to the posters who have contacted me off-list to express agreement with my sentiments.

The whiners are NOT winning friends and influencing people positively!!!

Oh, and something new -- folks, there is a huge section of the board called "Suggestions." Why not take your endless demands for coffee grinders there???

[SueW170]

Originally Posted by Toranut97

You want information? -- then try corresponding privately with the developers. The OP wanted to offer his/her assistance with the "problem" -- sounds like something with no place in this thread. You want a job? Contact Slashkey and apply. Add to that the petulant, whiny and demanding tone that was taken (basically "I want an answer and I want it NOW!" Then, a day later, "Hey! Where is my answer??? You OWE ME an answer!") and I believe you are seeing a reflection of an entitlement attitude.

I agree that the demanding tone is totally out of line. And, no, they don't "owe" us answers. Since many interface with the devs through the mods here, though, perhaps a bit more information would be helpful to the mods as well as to other forum participants. Personally, I don't "expect" anything, but on the other hand a sort of "well that's just the way it is" answer? Not a very satisfactory response to a question about a product, whatever that product is.

It may be Beta but the devs owe us no insights into their game development process nor the behind-the-scenes programming details of this game. Such information may be desirable to those who like to steal ideas. Or that might just be my paranoia. Either way, they owe us no explanations in my book.

Doubt the question, however impolitely put, was wih the intent to "steal" ideas.

And I am sure the devs love hearing how what they are trying to accomplish is "simple" and "no big deal" if they would just let John or Judy Farmtowner pitch in and help. Yeah. Right. It's real simple. Multiple servers, millions of players, cross platform, multiple social network hosts -- no big deal. I am sure if the players an just pitch in and write some code they will solve it all!!!

Totally agree with you that those who refer to programming and maintaining a complex application like FT as "simple," "no big deal" are 180 wrong and probably have no understanding of programming at all.

"Justice" and "transparency" were deliberately employed since so many of the whiniest posters use such phrases as "It is NOT FAIR that we don't get free Farm Cash" or "Why am I being punished?". Transparency because of stuff like this: "Shouldn't the devs let us know what is going on? Why don't they tell us why the animals can't be moved? What are they planning?" etc., etc.

Yes, I get quite tired of that "It is NOT FAIR" thing too.

Sorry, i wan't the one who upped the drama ante. The whiners did.

I would like to add thanks to the posters who have contacted me off-list to express agreement with my sentiments.

The whiners are NOT winning friends and influencing people positively!!!
Whiners seldom win friends and influence people -- except perhaps the politicians

Oh, and something new -- folks, there is a huge section of the board called "Suggestions." Why not take your endless demands for coffee grinders there???[/quote]
Those requests appear repeatedly in the Suggestions section -- too repeatedly. Since it's been suggested, noted by the mods and, I'm sure, passed on to the developers, really is time folks move on.